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Old 05-15-2005, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hi! Tanning has always helped my skin, but I would never put my children or anyone elses in a tanning bed. I just wanted to make that clear before I asked this question.

Have any of you ever seen/felt skin that appears to have goosebumps (chill bumps) all the time?

My daughter, now 5, used to have small patches like this on different parts of her body. We were given steriod cream, but it never did any good. Her legs are now completely covered, and we just lotion them up a lot. Currently I use Supre Hempz on her.
I am also trying Tanzotic's after tan moist. w/EMU oil. Nothing really seems to help. It won't go away, but she never itches.

I just discovered the same thing on my 14 month old! His is on his belly. I am devestated at the poor condition of my daughters skin as her legs are like rubbing course sandpaper. It is sad. Now, to see it on my baby boy; I am even more upset.

I have no idea what it is, but with this forum being so widespread, I am hoping someone could give me an idea of what I am up against and what treatment options are available for this unknown problem.
Pleae send me your thoughts or post them. I am ready to take them both back to the doctor, but I would like a little insight first!

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Old 05-15-2005, 12:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Goose bumps are a temporary local change in the skin. The chain of events leading to this skin change starts with a stimulus such as cold or fear. That stimulus causes a nerve discharge from an involuntary portion of the nervous system called the sympathetic nervous system. The nerve discharge causes contraction of little muscles called the arrectores pilorum (the hair erector muscles). Contraction of these muscles elevates the hair follicles above the rest of the skin. And it is these tiny elevations we perceive as goose bumps.

The words used to describe this condition are curious and colorful. "Goose bumps" are listed in the Merriam- Webster Collegiate Dictionary (as two words in the plural). The term entered English in 1933 to indicate "a roughness of the skin produced by erection of its papillae esp. from cold, fear, or a sudden feeling of excitement."

The word "gooseflesh" (written as one word or as two) is older than "goose bumps." Gooseflesh dates back to about 1810, according to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), which defines it as "a rough pimply condition of the skin, produced by cold, fear, etc."

A fancier term (and one that only a quiz show buff could love) for this familiar phenomenon is "horripilation." Horripilation was compounded from the Latin "horrere", to stand on end + "pilus", hair = hair standing on end. (If you think "horripilation" sound horrible, you're right. The word "horrible" also came from the Latin "horrere" and referred to something that was so awfully dreadfully frightful that it made your hair stand on end!)

Medicine does not use a horrible term such as "horripilation" and rarely resorts to the commonplace words, goose bumps or gooseflesh. Medicine has a special term, "cutis anserina", that sounds like a scary dermatologic diagnosis. But it goes back to the goose again, since "cutis", skin + "anser", goose = goose skin.

Why humans ever came to need goosebumps is uncertain. Some biologists believe that goosebumps evolved as part of the fight-or-flight reaction along with heart rate increases that send the heart racing while blood rushes to the muscles to give them additional oxygen.

A similar phenomenon, bristling, in fur-covered animals may have made them look larger and more frightening and kept them warmer by increasing the amount of air between hairs which traps body heat. But in people there seems to be no practical purpose for goosebumps except, of course, to make our skin crawl!

Probably best to see a Doctor.
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Well, these are not actually goosebumps. I just describe it as looking and feeling that way. The hairs don't stand on end as would hairs when being chilled and having "goosebumps"
I just mean that it feels like that. Though, the elevation is actually lower than the raised skin of goosbumps. The skin feels rougher that goosebumps. A steriod cream was given, but it doesn't work. She has had this since she was a baby/toddler. It has gradually gotten worse and now covers her legs completly. It is permanent...never goes away or lessens. thanks again.

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Was the steriod cream given by a Doctor? What did they say it was?
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Yes. It was given by the doctor. All he told me was that it was a type of eczema that was very hard to treat. He did not tell me what kind. She doesn't itch though. I thought eczema itched. When I went back the next time I told them that the cream was not working. Since she still had no itch, he seemed to act like it was no big deal. It really is a big deal when she sits in the dugout with her pre-school friends (she just turned 5) and rubs legs with them trying to squish on the bench and wait to bat. Others squirm away from her sometimes. It IS weird and I don't want her to be self concious this early in life.
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Aaah. My youngest has eczema too, no itching either. I wonder if there are any "wonder" creams out there that would help? Aloe Vera, emu oils........ I'll have to go snoop!
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Helpful Hints for Eczema

Hydration: Your skin is dry, not because it lacks grease or oil, but because it fails to retain water. Therefore, to correct dryness, water is added to the skin, followed by a grease or oil-containing substance to hold the water in. This can be done by soaking the affected area in a basin of water, in the bath or in the shower, for 20 minutes using warm water. Pat the skin with a soft towel to remove excess water, and immediately apply Emu oil. You should bathe and lubricate at least once a day or more for optimum hydration. Many folks find additional applications (2 or 3 times a day) of agents like Emu oil that hydrate the skin, help keep their skin moist.

Although eczema can be difficult to live with, we hope the above suggestions will help alleviate some of the discomfort associated with it. Remember: no two cases are exactly alike and each person may have different needs.

This document is informational only. Medical advice and treatment should be obtained from your family physician.

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Thanks, NB! I did get the link you sent, too. It has some very helpful info. I am trying the after tan lotion with Emu oil on her. So far it is not working, but I think I may know why. I have been on this computer for a few hours now and I have been looking for anything to tell me more about this problem. I don't think it is ezcema. After reading this, I am going to take her to the doctor and get him to look into it more. This sounds exactly like her problem: Keratosis Pilaris alba. Actually there are several forms of Karatosis Pilaris, but "alba" is rough, dry, bumpy skin with no irritation. If your curious on what I read, check out this link: http://www.helpforkp.com/
I don't know much on the reliability of the site, but it gives me somewhere to start researching from and somehting to go to my children's doctor with.

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yes i had it when i was a child and my little girl who is 9 now has it, its on the back of the upper arms, top of upper legs. hers is not really noticable, but mine got really red and itched. i was told it was eczema. i used a & d ointment when i was a child it helped some. but they have alot of new things out now. good luck!!
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